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mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today. obama is en route to a rally in wisconsin, but earlier today in denver supporters saw the obama we hoped to see last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner.
mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today....
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i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of let mr. romney climb out of that kind of space that they had put him in, but there will be many other opportunities as we see the president's back strong on the stump hammering romney. there will be another debate. we forget it's a long time ago, mondale wins the first debate against reagan, reagan comes back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first debate, against george bush. george bush similarly seemed very unhappy to be there as the president. bush comes back in the second one and wins, goes on to win. so lots of opportunity for the president to come back. but clearly let romney back into this. >> i guess, sam, how far is mitt going to go towards the middle? i mean, bill brings up the question of reproductive rights, the obama care question is certainly still, you know, how much is mitt romney going to embrace massachusetts, his legacy there, in the coming weeks? it's a sharp pivot. >> wasn't just during the debate. he was
i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of let mr. romney climb out of that kind of space that they had put him in, but there will be many other opportunities as we see the president's back strong on the stump hammering romney. there will be another debate. we forget it's a long time ago, mondale wins the first debate against reagan, reagan comes back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first...
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. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused on is what kind of performance does each man need to have? i do think that the fact that -- remember, president obama was not good at debates during the last cycle. he got better throughout the course of the debates. so did mitt romney. seeing what performances are like, i think the stakes are very high for both men. that's not his problem. his problem is that he is able to have one good day, not two good days. he needs to have a solid wednesday and be solid thursday, friday. otherwise it looks like another fluke. you prepared for one performance but your campaign is in disarray. you don't have answers to questions. you can't give details to policies. but you're making big promises. that's not going to work for
. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused on is what kind of performance does each man need to have? i do think that the fact that -- remember, president obama was not good at...
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reporting president obama himself knows that he lost the debate. he's upset about it. here to talk about it tonight, obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher. also, ralph reed. cornell, bored, aloof, some said even arrogant. those are some of the words used today and last night to describe president obama on that stage. what exactly was the strategy heading into this? was there a strategy? >> what you saw last night from the president was the president trying to lay out the facts to those few undecided voters that are still out there. here's our plan, here's how we want to move the country forward versus mitt romney and his plan about moving the country forward. the problem with the debate last night is that one candidate showed up talking about the facts of their plan and the other candidate showed up with a completely different plan, and was completely dishonest about the facts of his plan. that was a little problematic. >> but the president did not seem to take the fight to mitt romney. if you believe that mitt romney wasn't being honest, the presid
reporting president obama himself knows that he lost the debate. he's upset about it. here to talk about it tonight, obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher. also, ralph reed. cornell, bored, aloof, some said even arrogant. those are some of the words used today and last night to describe president obama on that stage. what exactly was the strategy heading into this? was there a strategy? >> what you saw last night from the president was the president trying to lay out the facts to those few...
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this negate, did this debate ding romney and obama head to head did this negate this false narrative the president has been advance something did they get the sense that obama cannot run on his record because we have fewer americans working, $6 trillion in debt and 49 million on food stamps? >> and this is hard to defend a failed record like he has. romney came out and set forth clear points about how to turn the economy around and create job autos there is a difference between leadership and management. and romney is a leader in obama tried to manage this thing. >> it's an interesting point. >> this is a kind of -- . >> this is a competition between style and substance. have you to have something of substance to run a country like this and hold everyone together for the common good. and style, obviously hasn't worked for the last four years. >> houchl you thought -- how many of you thought romney exceeded your kpekt stations? how many of you thought obama fell short of your kpekt stations? what advice? are you moving towards obama? >> obama? be more on his game about showing the non
this negate, did this debate ding romney and obama head to head did this negate this false narrative the president has been advance something did they get the sense that obama cannot run on his record because we have fewer americans working, $6 trillion in debt and 49 million on food stamps? >> and this is hard to defend a failed record like he has. romney came out and set forth clear points about how to turn the economy around and create job autos there is a difference between leadership...
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can anybody remember anything from the debate four years ago between mccain and obama? i certainly can't. >> bret: very little. >> very little. >> uneventful debate. they happen. >> that is the first time we saw senator obama then at the time hold his own with the older statesman, more experienced person. >> bret: by the way, he started in the first debate calling him john. he didn't call him senator. he called him john. i'd be interesting to see does he call mitt romney "mitt" or "governor"? >> i assume he'll call him governor and one thing we have to find out. we don't know. for practicing they do, once the dynamic is up there it's easy to get under president obama's skin i think. from some of his channelers that said that before. people who debated him. we'll see. well practiced to not be smug. on the same side, governor romney, he can't sort of call for help as he did in the debate in the primary. >> what i would suggest to the president is don't call him "mittens." >> bret: that would be bad. jonah, final word. >> it's interesting that obama become has to practice
can anybody remember anything from the debate four years ago between mccain and obama? i certainly can't. >> bret: very little. >> very little. >> uneventful debate. they happen. >> that is the first time we saw senator obama then at the time hold his own with the older statesman, more experienced person. >> bret: by the way, he started in the first debate calling him john. he didn't call him senator. he called him john. i'd be interesting to see does he call mitt...
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/mccain debate where obama was hammering mccain for proposing to raise taxes on health care benefits which is what obama did in his health care benefit. i'm just reminding people a lot of what we're hearing you have to take with grain of salt that big picture priorities usually are followed through on. but the details get swept away -- >> also -- >> the one big policy thing that romney has done is walking away from and at least with president obama, i mean we've got obama care, we've got the jobs act, we've got some actual ideas that he has put on the table, things he has done in the last four years to say, we can see what your philosophy is. we can see what specificity. romney won't even give you that. >> the wall of obfuscation, brick by brick. mark halperin, we haven't talked about the coverage of "time," the debate special and we're not trying to depress anybody here but the thesis here written by one of our friends to the show, michael sherry, he talks about how voters are just increasingly less demanding of the truth, that political fibs we can get away with them and things lik
/mccain debate where obama was hammering mccain for proposing to raise taxes on health care benefits which is what obama did in his health care benefit. i'm just reminding people a lot of what we're hearing you have to take with grain of salt that big picture priorities usually are followed through on. but the details get swept away -- >> also -- >> the one big policy thing that romney has done is walking away from and at least with president obama, i mean we've got obama care,...
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>> president obama during the debate said he is the one who is going to raise taxes by letting the bush tax cuts expire. >> but we just played two things back to back that do not match. >> look, he said all look, 20% across the board. i think there were two different things he was speaking about there. he has a very pro-growth policy. he has a policy to create 12 million jobs. >> so are you saying he misspoke in one of those? >> i'm not going to get into whether he misspoke or not -- what i know is he has said all along, 20% across the board for everybody, and that means everybody. to what specifically he was speaking there, i'm not exactly sure. but it's a clear choice what you have. we don't need to get caught up on the back and forth. he is going to put forward pro-growth jobs. and 7.8% is an anemic recovery. that is nothing to celebrate. i remember when president bush was criticized by president obama when i worked for him -- >> but for the past four years, republican have said saying over and over and over, he promised 8%. and it's 7.8 now. >> the reason it's below 7.8% is because
>> president obama during the debate said he is the one who is going to raise taxes by letting the bush tax cuts expire. >> but we just played two things back to back that do not match. >> look, he said all look, 20% across the board. i think there were two different things he was speaking about there. he has a very pro-growth policy. he has a policy to create 12 million jobs. >> so are you saying he misspoke in one of those? >> i'm not going to get into whether he...
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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...
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. >> president obama talking about zingers and trying to manage expectations for the debate. charles and ross are back to talk about whether that's a good strategy. i have a poll here about who's likely to win the debate and very clearly, people think that obama will, 55% to 31%. yet, i would say that the favorite really ought to be mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very capable opponents on a debate stage. barack obama hasn't done this for four years. so i would think the advantage would definitely be with the apparent underdog, a, because people don't think he's going to win and i think he may well win that first debate and secondly, because he's the more experienced debater. >> well, i think i would caution you a little bit. i think the president, when he has given kind of press interviews, that is a form of being pressed on things so maybe you're not debating another opponent one-on-one, but you are going through the process of answering questions and tough q
. >> president obama talking about zingers and trying to manage expectations for the debate. charles and ross are back to talk about whether that's a good strategy. i have a poll here about who's likely to win the debate and very clearly, people think that obama will, 55% to 31%. yet, i would say that the favorite really ought to be mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very...
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here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there is the matter of his sex appeal. take a look at this. >> since i've been here a number of times over the last 20 years, i knew it was going to be -- you mind if i take my coat off with your permission? thank you. all right. >> check out the buysep flex -- are we really going to show a bisep flex? we missed it. okay. close your eyes. okay. the vp's allure is the subject of a new piece in politico. politico senior washington, d.c. correspondent jonathan allen wrote it and joins me now. jonathan, we did miss the bicep shot, paul ryan has the px 90 thing going on. we've seen the example of joe biden on the trail, joe biden being very smooth, trying to relate and be charmin
here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there is the matter of his sex appeal. take a look at this. >> since i've been here a number of...
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i've listened to a lot of the debates, and not necessarily the debates between romney and obama, but debates with people and it seems like the camps are split. i just want someone to grab hold of the reins and make this company -- or make this country and this company all it can be. >> you came to new york, with $150. bought 20 pairs of bell bottom jeans and sold in your small town and off went the hilfiger empire. do you think you could still do that today? >> i think a lot of people are doing that. maybe not with $150, but people are starting small businesses and growing them. there are lots of examples now, and it's not only in america, but worldwide. so i think if you have a desire and where there is a will, there is a way. you need a dream, you need to build a great product and have a very specific roadmap. >> one of the great fashion icons of my lifetime in my studio and not get a fashion verdict on great political leaders. barack obama first. a little picture there. what is your view? >> he is much better off in a suit than -- than colored trousers or chino trousers. >> this i
i've listened to a lot of the debates, and not necessarily the debates between romney and obama, but debates with people and it seems like the camps are split. i just want someone to grab hold of the reins and make this company -- or make this country and this company all it can be. >> you came to new york, with $150. bought 20 pairs of bell bottom jeans and sold in your small town and off went the hilfiger empire. do you think you could still do that today? >> i think a lot of...
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, obama, romney, who's the better debater both have clear debate skills and shown those in their debates over the time. governor romney had very good debates in the republican primaries against his opponents and was very effective in those. president obama had some pretty good debates particularly the general election debates against senator mccain. the new format they're using i'm not sure it favors either candidate. it gives president obama a little bit more opportunity to talk at length which he wants to do about his record and about the things he's going to do going forward and also to draw some contrast with governor romney. for governor romney it may give him an opportunity rather than looking like he has canned answers to show people he's more thoughtful and warmer and more likable. >> dan balz, both warm and likable. thank you very much. thanks for being with us. >> thanks. >> up next, new questions about security and intelligence behind the benghazi terror attack. former ambassador to iraq chris hill joining us live here in denver. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only
, obama, romney, who's the better debater both have clear debate skills and shown those in their debates over the time. governor romney had very good debates in the republican primaries against his opponents and was very effective in those. president obama had some pretty good debates particularly the general election debates against senator mccain. the new format they're using i'm not sure it favors either candidate. it gives president obama a little bit more opportunity to talk at length...
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barack obama. >>> americans are hoping for a few magic moments during the debate. we thought it was fun to look backwards and talk about our favorite debate moments throughout history. experts disagree how much the debates affect the voters. there's no question they shape how we recommend the elections. we all thought about this and came up with a signature moment from debates past. i'll lead it off. i had a lot that came to my mind, but one stands out from 1992. bill clinton and george bush sr. and ross perot. it was the first die bait that year. the back story was george bush won the white house by sort of playing on patriotism themes. flag burns issues like this. really in my ways seemed to question dukakis's pati patriot. here comes bill clinton. he was at oxford during the vietnam war and participating in protests over there. george bush sr. on the campaign trail and the republicans started to play this up and coming close to questioning the patriotism of xwlibill clinton. bush brought it up and they went to clinton for a response. they think it can work here
barack obama. >>> americans are hoping for a few magic moments during the debate. we thought it was fun to look backwards and talk about our favorite debate moments throughout history. experts disagree how much the debates affect the voters. there's no question they shape how we recommend the elections. we all thought about this and came up with a signature moment from debates past. i'll lead it off. i had a lot that came to my mind, but one stands out from 1992. bill clinton and...
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and so i think that president obama has a record in a debate. we know who he is. he means what he says. and i think that this is the failure of romney's campaign, throughout the entire narrative of this campaign, we've never been able to really know who this guy is. he has to play tonight. >> i think chris's point about emotional intelligence is really important. but i will say this. training can get people to places they haven't been before. when president obama began, everyone said he was too professorial, too diffident, he didn't have that elmpathic quality. >> and when people are having a good time, you like them. we're having a good time. do you like us? we are now just a couple of minutes away from the big show. this is my favorite night in politics. this is part of the reason we are excited here. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. we're right back. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development com
and so i think that president obama has a record in a debate. we know who he is. he means what he says. and i think that this is the failure of romney's campaign, throughout the entire narrative of this campaign, we've never been able to really know who this guy is. he has to play tonight. >> i think chris's point about emotional intelligence is really important. but i will say this. training can get people to places they haven't been before. when president obama began, everyone said he...
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obama has had a chance to do that, and he has not done it. his message seems to be i've done the best that i can. hang on, it's going to get better. just don't go back. romney, his candidacy has a -- his canvas has a blank space there. he can do that. this is a rare political event where both candidates are the underdogs. >> it is hard in debate to show your likability skills. >> the other thing hard for mitt romney, he seems weird to people, they can't relate to them, doesn't seem in touch with their lives, particularly for women voters. if you're an attack dog in the debate -- >> that's the difference between being an attack dog and drawing contrast on where you lead the country. bill clinton was likeable and did that in debate. that's not mitt romney's strength, why should he try to do it there. >> we have a lot of recent history with mitt romney at debates. sure, sometimes he blows it, betting $10,000, other times he has really come back and done quite well and he has stepped up to the occasion. but it is mixed. there's a mixed bag. havin
obama has had a chance to do that, and he has not done it. his message seems to be i've done the best that i can. hang on, it's going to get better. just don't go back. romney, his candidacy has a -- his canvas has a blank space there. he can do that. this is a rare political event where both candidates are the underdogs. >> it is hard in debate to show your likability skills. >> the other thing hard for mitt romney, he seems weird to people, they can't relate to them, doesn't seem...
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joe biden, out debated barack obama in every single debate back in 2008. every single debate. chris dodd, joe biden, hillary clinton just ran circles around him and people get -- at some point you just have to say because he doesn't have his -- i mean, as great of a grasp on the issues as the people he's debating. >> that's sobering but true. i believe it's the professor versus -- >> how can you be president of the united states, mark halperin and not have these basic answers? >> well, it's more the format i think than not having the answers. he spent a lot of the evening going after mitt romney for things that he thinks he can win the election on like taxes and medicare. it wasn't like he never responded to him. >> isn't the format in washington that you get in a room with someone and you go at it and try and figure it out? >> and that's what we're asking. has he been too isolated? listen, we talked to him -- the guy is brilliant. he really is. but has he become so isolated there's not the back and forth with even democratic leadership? because the democr
joe biden, out debated barack obama in every single debate back in 2008. every single debate. chris dodd, joe biden, hillary clinton just ran circles around him and people get -- at some point you just have to say because he doesn't have his -- i mean, as great of a grasp on the issues as the people he's debating. >> that's sobering but true. i believe it's the professor versus -- >> how can you be president of the united states, mark halperin and not have these basic answers?...
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mitt romney and president obama are 90 minutes from the beginning of the debate tonight. their vps have been in the headlines, each caught on videotape. it could provide fodder for the opponents tonight. debbie wasserman schultz, joy reid is managing editor of thegrio.com. let's take a look. >> this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising tacks of the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes? >> well, shortly after joe biden made those remarks, mitt romney tweeted, agree with joe biden, the middle class can has been buried in the last four years we need to change in november. can't afford four more. and then paul ryan on the campaign trail. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class, over the last four years has, has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> congresswoman, is this a gaffe over language? the cost of living, would that even
mitt romney and president obama are 90 minutes from the beginning of the debate tonight. their vps have been in the headlines, each caught on videotape. it could provide fodder for the opponents tonight. debbie wasserman schultz, joy reid is managing editor of thegrio.com. let's take a look. >> this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising tacks of the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they...
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into tomorrow's debate while playing up the debating skills, of course, of the other candidate. one of romney's biggest surrogates went a bit rogue this weekend on "the daily show." take note. >> here is the great news for republicans, we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinarily well on wednesday night. >> oh, my [ bleep ], we got a runner! we got a runner! apparently only chris christie did not get the memo his party nominee sucks at this. >> wednesday night is the restart of this campaign and i think you'll see those numbers start to move right back in the other direction. and this whole race will be turned upside down come thursday morning. >> what are you doing, christie? for god's sake, if romney fails to meet those heavy expectations, he's going to leave the general election, creating chaos in the general election and that's going to leave 2016 -- oh. the jersey is strong in this one. >> in political language the governor there was sandbagging. actually he was sandbagging. he should have been low balling, that's playing up the skills of the other guy while claim
into tomorrow's debate while playing up the debating skills, of course, of the other candidate. one of romney's biggest surrogates went a bit rogue this weekend on "the daily show." take note. >> here is the great news for republicans, we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinarily well on wednesday night. >> oh, my [ bleep ], we got a runner! we got a runner! apparently only chris christie did not get the memo his party nominee sucks at this. >> wednesday...
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obama has had a chance to do that, and he has not done it. his message seems to be i've done the best that i can. hang on, it's going to get better. just don't go back. but clearly this debate is one of those rare political events where both candidates are the underdogs. >> apparently, if you listen to it. >> yeah. so there is maybe an opportunity for somebody to surprise. >> it is very hard, it seems to me, in a debate to be -- to show your likability skills, right? >> right. i think that right. the other thing that's hard for mitt romney is he just seems weird to people and they can't relate to him and he doesn't seem in touch with their lives and that's particularly true for women voters. if you're an attack dog in the debate, you're not going to fill in the mode. >> bill clinton was very likeable and he did that in a debate. that's not mitt romney's strength. why should he try to do it there. >> we have a lot of recent history. sometimes he blows it, bitting $10,000 but a lot of times he's come back and done quite well and stepped up to t
obama has had a chance to do that, and he has not done it. his message seems to be i've done the best that i can. hang on, it's going to get better. just don't go back. but clearly this debate is one of those rare political events where both candidates are the underdogs. >> apparently, if you listen to it. >> yeah. so there is maybe an opportunity for somebody to surprise. >> it is very hard, it seems to me, in a debate to be -- to show your likability skills, right? >>...